Friday 6 April 2012

WHEN YOU NEXT GO INTO YOUR CUDDLY, FAMILY-FRIENDLY SUPERMARKET, and pile nicely packaged local fruit and veg into your trolley, and just possibly sniff and 'tutt' because there a few migrants ahead of you in the queue - and yes, I have done it, mea culpa, think about where that food comes from, and at what cost it has been harvested and wrapped. This is a very long transcript, but it comes from a BBC 'Panorama' investigation into the way top supermarkets, farmers and gangmasters exploit migrant workers to shave off a few pence from your checkout bill, and boost their profits.

PANORAMA

"GANGMASTERS"
RECORDED FROM TRANSMISSION: BBC-1
 
PAUL KENYON
Tonight Panorama goes undercover to expose the illegal labour producing food 
for some of 
our top supermarkets, exploited and underpaid for us.

Sgt KEN YOUNG
It's not far short of a modern day slave trade.

KENYON
These factories supply food to some of our biggest supermarkets. 
Tonight Panorama reveals 
how they're using illegal labour provided by men known as 'gangmasters'.

YOUNG
The corrupt gangmaster is someone who is there to exploit illegal labour, 
that's what he exists 
for and that's how he makes his living, and they make very large sums of money indeed doing 
that.

KENYON
This is a story of greed and corruption at one end of the food chain, 
fuelled by a supermarket 
price war at the other.

TIM LANG
On our doorstep is exploitation of an immense degree.  Now that's outrageous.  Are we 
seriously saying the supermarkets don't know about that?

KENYON
It's also a story of how the guilty run rings round the law.

You employ illegal workers, don't you, Mr Stratton.

MRS STRATTON
For each illegal person we employ Mark gets a fine in court of £5000, but we still do it 
because we take the risk.

KENYON
We've got some of your staff admitting on secret film that you employ illegal workers and 
you think it's a risk worth taking don't you Mr Stratton.

A gangmaster is simply someone who hires out casual labour for seasonal work.  Most operate 
inside the law.  This is a story of those who don't.  Our journey starts here, Victoria Coach 
Station in London.  It's a meeting point for young foreign travellers.  Most are tourists but 
others are here to join the UK's swelling ranks of illegal workers.  We've recruited Sergei, a 
Russian journalist, to join them.  Leaving his British passport behind, he follows the most 
popular trail.  Out of London, eastwards and onto Norfolk and the fens.  Here there's great 
demand for casual labour, shifting and changing according to the seasons, and to the 
supermarkets' desires.  The gangmasters employ teams of casuals and hire them out, but more 
and more are taking on illegal workers.  That's the world Sergei is hoping to enter.  In King's 
Lynn he's told to find a man called Kestus, he's a gangmaster from Lithuania and himself an 
illegal immigrant.  A meeting is arranged between Sergei and a friend of Kestus.

PAUL KENYON
Sergei is going to meet some people here who can get him work.  Now the deal is, he's going 
to have to pay an upfront fee just for an introduction and then he's going to have to pay for 
some forged documents.  So he's paying out before he's even lifted a shovel.

The meeting is at night in the train station.  The man will take him to meet Kestus at a small 
terraced house on the outskirts of town.  Inside are several East European workers.  Kestus, 
their gangmaster, takes Sergei upstairs.  This is where the deal will be done to employ Sergei 
into the UK's invisible workforce.  Without explanation the lights are turned off.

KESTUS
It's £100 for you to work.  Have you got any ID for work permit.

SERGEI
No, I haven't.

KESTUS
It will cost £80.  I will take the £100 and share it with the company.  You will be working 
officially.  I can get you work even tomorrow from 7 o'clock in the morning.

KENYON
Kestus is acting as a recruiter for this company - FP Personnel.  Sergei will now get work 
through FP.  So he's been signed up.  For £180 he's bought a ticket into the UK's illegal 
labour force.  At FP's offices he's to meet a friend of Kestus called Andris.  He is a direct 
employee of FP and helps organise the illegals into labour gangs.  Kestus is outside waiting 
for the minibuses to take his recruits to work.  The company has some big contracts to supply 
labour to major food factories.  Kestus won't be going with them, he lives off his illegal 
workers.  This is where they've ended up.  

Right, Sergei has just got a shift here.  It's a vegetable factory, and judging by the fact it's got 
ASDA vans outside it's going to be a pretty big vegetable factory.  Now he goes in there 
without any ID or any paperwork whatsoever so, presumably, as soon as he gets to the front 
door they'll just turn him away.  But no, the illegals were taken straight to the work sheds.  
This is a potato producer called Fenmarc.  It's the main supplier for ASDA.  Sergei's job is 
repackaging, changing the 'enjoy by' dates by 24 hours.  We asked ASDA why.  They say 
potatoes have a long shelf life, and sudden changes in demand can mean they want the 
packaging as up to date as possible.  On tonight's shift there are supervisors and casual 
workers, plus the illegals supplied through FP Personnel.  One of them is from Armenia.

ARMENIAN WORKER (translated)
When there is no work at home then it's better to work here.  But there is nothing interesting 
here, apart from money, and even money is not that good.  You can't spend it anyway.  You 
just pay for the flat and for food.

KENYON
The use of illegal workers at Fenmarc isn't just a one off.  FP Personnel has a contract to 
supply them with labour regularly.  It's worth three quarters of a million pounds a year.  A 
group of illegals who have worked at the potato factory live here in appalling conditions.  
They're Estonians.

WORKER
You could catch T.B. at this place.  I was sleeping under curtains for three days because of the 
cold.  I took them down in the night.

KENYON
The flat is filthy with concrete floors.  It was organised by Kestus' friend, Andris, at FP 
Personnel.  Their evening meal is potatoes picked up during a shift.

WORKER
I would have got the XX out of here the next but I did not have any money at all then.  I even 
had nothing to eat so I was looking for cigarette butts on the street.  With this sort of life one 
can hang himself.

KENYON
How do you feel when you see that, people in that predicament?

Sgt KEN YOUNG
CAMBRIDGESHIRE POLICE
I will admit, I do feel very sorry for them.  They are victims.  The criminals in this, if you like, 
are the gangmasters.  They will cream off for accommodation, for petrol.  They will cream off 
a percentage from the company that they are subcontracting to.  They make a lot of money.  
It's not far short of a modern day slave trade.

KENYON
The modern day slave master who recruited Sergei lives here, in a King's Lynn council flat.  
Kestus' empire is expanding so quickly he needs more rooms to house the illegals, so he's 
negotiating with a friend.

KESTUS
£700 a month, very cheap, but nothing, not curtain, not this one, not...

KENYON
The talk is of how many people they can cram into ten rooms.

KESTUS
Thirty people, 30, thirty people, no problem - or 35, I don't know.

KENYON
Sergei was still waiting for his next work through FP Personnel.  Eight days later he's told to 
wait outside the office at four in the morning.  With him the Estonians from that squalid flat.  
No one has been told where they're going or what the work is.  Four hours later the illegals 
find themselves in Essex.  The noise from the factory makes them uneasy.  Whilst they wait 
they fill in attendance sheets for FP Personnel.  They'd been promised £4.50 an hour before 
setting off.  Now they learn it'll be a lot less, and they don't like the look of the work.  The 
van driver from FP Personnel shows them what to do.  The company, Kelly's Chickens, 
doesn't ask anyone for proof of their status.  One of the group here is an ex-police officer from 
Estonia.  The illegals are mixed in with the supervisors and the casual labour.

WORKER
Listen, have they also told you it's £4 an hour?

2nd WORKER
£4.50 an hour but now it turns out it's going to be nothing.  How much can we do?  Thirty 
chickens minus £4 for the van, then FP takes £10 a week.  We are XX over.

KENYON
Working for Kelly's should have a certain kudos.  It supplies chickens to Harrods.

Right, so here you are, Kelly's chicken.  It's been processed for a factory that used illegal 
labour and it's ended up here on the shelves at Harrods.  So at this end of the food chain 
you've got some of the most privileged shoppers in the country, at the other end you've got 
illegal labour, trapped, exploited and scraping around for enough money to eat.  It's pay day 
back at FP Personnel.  For that potato shift at Fenmarc Sergei gets £29.  What about the 
chickens?  Well, after rising at 4 and returning home at 9 in the evening, Sergei gets just 
£5.80.  So ten days after being taken on through FP Personnel the money he has earned still 
doesn't cover the introduction fee paid, and there is no pay slip, so no record of tax or national 
insurance.  But there's another type of paperwork which Sergei's gangmaster is keen on - 
forged documents.  Sergei has already paid for his when he was first recruited.  This is the 
character who is going to provide them, another friend of Kestus.  He's worried about being 
spotted by CCTV.

WORKER
We've got security cameras behind us.

SERGEI
Camera?  Really?

WORKER
Yes.

SERGEI
What, really, a camera?

WORKER
The whole time is security cameras.

KENYON
The document is a forged Home Office paper which says Sergei is seeking political asylum.  
In effect it gives him the right to work in the UK.  Supplying forged papers is a serious 
offence.  It carries a maximum sentence of 10 years in gaol.  To the untrained eye it looks 
genuine.  Other poorer forgeries have even been found at car boot sales in the Norfolk area, 
but this one won't fool the experts.

YOUNG
This is by far the most common of the forged forms we're encountering and the scale is huge.  
The cost of them, depending on the quality and the forger they've come from, could be 
anything from £150 to £250.

KENYON
Talk us through how good you think this particular forgery is.

YOUNG
The quality of this one is fairly good.  I mean the paper feels about right, the colour is right.  
Most of the things that should be there are there.  There are a few safeguards the Home Office 
put on these so that you can detect when they are forgeries and those things are of course 
missing.

KENYON
So, Sergei takes it back to Kestus' friend, Andris, the man from FP Personnel.  He thinks it's a 
poor forgery too, but knows someone who can sort out a better one for more money.

ANDRIS
You see, these dates are all wobbly.  They shouldn't be like that.  The dates on the stamp 
should be straight.

SERGEI
Rudaca said that maybe you can help with that.

ANDRIS
Well, I don't know.  I have to make a phone call about it.  I don't personally put them together 
myself, but it will cost you again because nobody will do it for nothing.  All right then.  Call 
me on Sunday and I will tell you when I am going to you.  You need Wellingtons because 
you'll be on the fields.

SERGEI
I'll borrow.  Bye.

KENYON
Then there's a blow for Andris.  We hear that his friend, Kestus, the gangmaster, has been 
arrested for assault.  The police found he was using a false name and lying about where he 
came from.  He's deported back to Lithuania.  The news hits hard among Kestus' illegal army 
of workers.  Ruta, from Lithuania, is left with nowhere to live.  She'd also lent Kestus a 
thousand pounds.

RUTA
I have nowhere to live.  You understand?  I have no money to go home.  I could give myself in 
and get deported by the Home Office, but I still have debts.  This life in England has been a 
big failure.

KENYON
This is the man at the top of the multi million pound business empire which runs FP 
Personnel, he's Preston Andrews.  At the bottom of his empire, the illegal workers.  On the 
surface he's a respectable local businessman with numerous companies and offices opposite 
the police station.  Last year his business empire had a turnover of ten million pounds.   But 
we wanted to talk to him about illegal workers.

Your organisation is employing illegal workers, isn't it.

PRESTON ANDREWS
I don't think so my man, no, I don't think so at all.

KENYON
Oh it is.  You're notorious for it aren't you?

ANDREWS
No, not at all.

KENYON
You've been doing it for years, employing hundreds of illegal immigrants over the years.  
What are you going to do about it?  We've got secret filming of people in FP Personnel being 
underpaid, being exploited and being illegal workers.

ANDREWS
We are not exploiting anyone my man.  The organisation that I am involved with is doing 
everything we possibly can to keep ourselves clean.

KENYON
This was your opportunity.  Do you want to tell us about it or not?

ANDREWS
We are not employing illegal workers, and if you've got any evidence that we've got anyone 
within the system anywhere who is illegal we'd like to know about it, and we're working with 
the Immigration.  I'd like you to know that.

KENYON
You had some workers picked up only last week.  The Immigration weren't too happy about 
that.

The week before, Immigration discovered 13 illegals at Fishers Frozen Foods.  They were 
employed through FP Personnel.  After meeting Preston Andrews, we sent him details of what 
we'd secretly filmed.  He said staff at FP are made aware of the law and are required to follow 
it.  As for all the wages handed out in FP's offices, he says some gangmasters are just allowed 
to use the office to pay the casuals they've employed, but they're not FP's responsibility.  We 
told Kelly's chickens what we'd found in their factory.  They said they relied on FP Personnel 
to make checks on workers. They also said the people supplied by FP didn't work hard 
enough and they asked them to leave.  They won't be using FP Personnel again.  We then told 
ASDA about their biggest potato supplier and it's use of illegal workers.

We've got secret film of your main potato supplier, Fenmarc, using illegal workers.  So you'll 
be terminating their contract with you, won't you?

CHRISTINE WATTS
ASDA
We were appalled when we found out that there was an issue with Fenmarc and illegal 
workers, and we took action straight away.  The first thing that we've done is to have an 
independent audit done of their business and that has thrown up some issues.

KENYON
What were those?

WATTS
The issues were to do with the fact that Fenmarc were relying too heavily on the employment 
agencies they were using to check paperwork and credentials and so on.

KENYON
So it sounds as though they were being negligent.  They weren't doing what you expect them 
to do to ensure that you have clean, ethical labour.

WATTS
Fenmarc were not against this independent audit that we had carried out.  They were not 
meeting our requirements for employing people legally.

KENYON
Fenmarc says it has never knowingly used illegal workers and will be making further checks 
in the future.  It has now terminated its contract with FP Personnel.  

ASDA is so powerful you could come along and say "We're not going to use you anymore, 
that is your punishment".

WATTS
Bear in mind that we're talking here about workers being employed by employment agencies, 
casual workers being supplied to a supplier of ASDA.  These aren't ASDA colleagues.  We 
are three steps down the chain here.

KENYON
The supermarkets may be three times removed from the labour which helps fill their shelves, 
but their power and influence does affect most aspects of the food chain right through to the 
gangmasters.

The temptation for gangmasters to employ illegals is that you can pay them less and work 
them harder.  Now the supermarkets of course wouldn't endorse that, but it's their activities 
right at the top of the food chain which can encourage it.  If the supermarkets want more, 
riper, bigger, sooner, the food chain snaps into action.  There's a ripple effect from the shelves 
out to the fields, as there is with the current supermarket price war.

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KENYON
As we enjoy cut price foods, the wages in the fields can be squeezed.

DON POLLARD
GANGMASTER RESEARCHER, TGWU
A lot of it is the buying power of the supermarkets.  They buy I think 80% of the fresh 
produce in this country, and they're putting tremendous pressure both on the pack-house 
people and on farmers to reduce costs, and they in turn are putting the pressure on the weakest 
link in the production structure, namely wages and conditions.

KENYON
Gangmasters prepared to break the law can pay illegals below the minimum wage.  The 
factories, in turn, can supply the supermarkets for less.

Prof TIM LANG
THAMES VALLEY UNIVERSITY
The reality is, cheap food tends to mean cheap labour and we need to start thinking a lot more 
about this as we encourage supermarkets to vie with each other over price wars.

KENYON
This farmer is on the receiving end.  He supplies lettuces to a number of leading high street 
stores.  It's a competitive market and he suspects some rivals are using illegals to undercut 
him.

DAVID PICCAVER
Farmer
It's very frustrating when we're trying to negotiate, when we're trying to get more business, to 
think that we can lose business because somebody is flouting the rules, the regulations, the 
law.

KENYON
The regime here is strict.  All paperwork is checked.  Staff have been trained to spot forgeries, 
but they're not obliged to do this.  The legal responsibility lies with the gangmaster, they're 
the employer.  Mr Piccaver could just say "Not my responsibility" many do.

PICCAVER
Some companies may be using illegal labour and therefore are able to offer a more 
competitive price for the same kind of product that we are producing, and in that sense we are 
losing out because we can't drop our price any further.

KENYON
If the situation continues as it is, how long do you think before you are tempted to start taking 
on illegal immigrants?

PICCAVER
I've always been told one should never say never.  I can't really answer that question.

KENYON
Sergei is ready for work again.  He's been taken on by another corrupt gangmaster.  More 
illegal immigrant workers bound for another major food factory.  This is PDM, a lettuce 
producer in Shropshire.  It has some big clients - Co-op, Morrisons and Aldi.  Later, PDM told 
us it has never knowingly employed illegals, but then you don't know unless you check, and 
on the day Sergei was there, no-one did.  PDM says it seeks assurances from gangmasters that 
the labour is legal.  Those who aren't have told Sergei how people are recruited into the 
U.K.'s invisible workforce.  Some are smuggled here in lorries.  Others use agents in their 
home country.  This man paid £300 for a language course which he never attended.

SERGEI
So did you study in London?

WORKER
No.  I came from Georgia to London, I called my friends and they told me there was some 
work.

KENYON
We decided to see just how simple it is to organise an illegal working trip to the UK by 
phoning some agents in Lithuania.

AGENT (taped telephone call)
These courses are only for the purpose of getting a student visa so you can get into the UK.  It 
is only for that.  You don't have to study at all.

KENYON
Agents in Eastern Europe are so unconcerned about their crimes, they even advertise in the 
press.  The price of an illegal trip to the UK - around $1500.   Some illegals carry on paying 
the agent for months afterwards.

POLLARD
Often they are here with loans from the people who have sent them here who, I must say, are 
often involved with the criminal mafia in Eastern Europe, and they can't just go back, they 
have to pay off these loans, and they often make sure that they have to work a long time 
before these loans are paid off.

KENYON
Some of those who owe money to agents back home have ended up in Norfolk.  Sergei is 
joining them.  Their corrupt gangmaster runs a highly organised operation, even housing the 
illegals at his headquarters.  He's called Mark Stratton. 

Sergei is spending the night in one of those caravans over there.  There's a whole group of 
them and it seems to be where Mark Stratton keeps some of his workforce, and we know now 
that Sergei has got some work sorted out for tomorrow.

MRS STRATTON
I'll put you in room five.

SERGEI
Lots of Russians.

MRS STRATTON
Oh yes, a lot, all Lithuanian, Latvian.  They come from Estonia.  All the Russian....

SERGEI
Baltic.

MRS STRATTON
Yes, that's it.  Okay then, and tomorrow I will place you into work somewhere.

KENYON
The supervisor then takes Sergei on a guided tour of Mr Stratton's empire, and Sergei is in 
luck, he won't have to sleep in a caravan.  Instead, he'll be crammed in a room with five 
others.  This is Mark Stratton.  He's made himself a wealthy man living off the back of illegal 
immigrants.  We found out that Mark Stratton is already well known the authorities.  
Immigration officers have raided premises before and found dozens of illegal workers 
supplied by him.  They've been deported.  He's not been prosecuted.  So it's tough action on 
them but he's just allowed to get on with it.  

It's Sergei's first morning at Mark Stratton's illegal labour farm.  There are dozens of them 
housed here, a ready supply of labour to be mobilised at short notice.  It's a 24 hour business, 
illegals being bussed out for shifts at all times of the day and night.  Sergei is being organised 
into a gang, though before he goes to work he wants some advice on what to do if 
Immigration catch him.

MALE OFFICE WORKER
Because you have no work permit, it doesn't matter where in England you are, if you're 
working and Immigration see you....

MRS STRATTON
Immigration always raid.  

FEMALE OFFICE WORKER
Sometimes we hear about it and we can warn people.  If we don't hear about it, we can't warn 
you.

MRS STRATTON
If we have a factory ring up and they say "We want all legal people" then we make sure they 
get all legal people, so they don't call immigration.  But most of the factories don't even 
bother to ask for your papers.  We've sent no papers to any factory we work for.

KENYON
Sergei's first job through Mark Stratton is here.  This is G.E.O. Adams, a huge meat factory 
with a £100 million turnover.  Sergei is put to work packaging food ready for the 
supermarkets.

FACTORY WORKER
You put ten sausages, five and then five, and then one in there, and then we put them in.  
Okay?

KENYON
The pay here is above the legal minimum, but none of the illegals are asked for paperwork.  
Whilst others pump sausages, Sergei explores and discovers he's working for some very 
important clients.  There's Iceland, ASDA, Sainsbury's and Morrisons.  When we told G.E.O. 
Adams what was happening, it said it would never knowingly employ illegal workers and it'll 
reinforce its checks in the future.  It's launching an investigation with the help of the 
immigration service.  Back at base, Sergei has found out that that helpful woman at the front 
desk is in fact Mark Stratton's mum.

MRS STRATTON
We've had 60 or 70 people arrested over the last three or four years, but it's a risk you take. 

OFFICE WORKER
But they go back and they come back over again.

MRS STRATTON
They get deported and then come back in a different name.

KENYON
One of them is Christina.  She was caught by immigration in February and expelled from the 
UK.  Now she's back and she's got some advice.

CHRISTINA
Don't tell them your name.  Make it up.  Make up date of birth.  Make up everything.  No 
problem.  No problem.

KENYON
This is where she was picked up, it's Lingarden, supplier of flowers to some of the country's 
leading supermarkets.  She was employed by Mark Stratton that time as well.  Last year in 
Britain around 6000 illegal workers were caught and expelled.  These were picked up during 
an immigration sting in Peterborough.  Some are already making plans to return.

WORKER
In Lithuania a very bad, very difficult life now, and in England it's not very good, but it's a 
little bit better, and we can make a little bit money for our families.

Q
So when you get sent out of this country, will you try to come back again?

WORKER
Yes, of course.

Q
How many times will you try?

WORKER
When I win.

COLIN HARBIN
HEAD OF IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT
We're probably only scratching the surface of it at the present time but there is certainly a lot 
of it going on, and we know that there are certain parts of industry that does take advantage of 
this type of labour, the agricultural industry is just one.

KENYON
No one knows how many illegals return to the UK, but if they're caught, it's usually just 
another plane home.  The gangmasters, the life blood of illegal labour, go unpunished.  They 
are committing a criminal offence by employing illegal immigrants, but that law has only been 
used once.  Instead, Immigration seem to prefer targeting the workers.

MICK CHATWIN
Joint Council for the Welfare of Immigrants
I think the current legislation really is toothless.  There's been only one prosecution under this 
law in almost four years, and it's really no indication that it's sending out any kind of signal to 
deter those who would like to bypass it and to exploit vulnerable workers.

KENYON
Isn't it the case though that you are targeting the wrong people, you're looking to remove the 
illegal workers when you should be directing your resources at the gangmasters.

HARBIN
Well we're doing both.

KENYON
But the gangmasters you've only prosecuted on in four years.

HARBIN
We've only prosecuted one in four years but we have a number of others whose cases we're 
looking at.  Bearing in mind...

KENYON
What kind of deterrent do you think that is though to other gangmasters acting illegally?

HARBIN
Bearing in mind that the number of people here unlawfully has been estimated in tens of 
thousands.  What we are doing at the present time is concentrating the principal part of our 
effort on removing those people.

KENYON
Mark Stratton is one of those who obviously doesn't find the current law much of a deterrent.

MRS STRATTON
It's the risk you take coming to England.  It's your responsibility, your risk.  It's our risk to 
employ you.

SERGEI
Why your risk?

MRS STRATTON
Because for each illegal person we employ, Mark gets a fine in court of £5000.

CHATWIN
A mere £5000 fine, which is the maximum that's imposed under this, really goes nowhere 
near impacting on people that are prepared to be unscrupulous, that will exploit.  The sums of 
money that can potentially be made in this business are far too big for that.  

KENYON
As Mr Stratton knows in his smart new sports car.  It's time to ask him about his illegal 
empire.

Hi, Mr Stratton, Paul Kenyon for BBC Television.  You employ illegal workers don't you Mr 
Stratton.  You employ illegal workers.  You've been doing it for an awful long time now, and 
you seem to be making quite a bit of money out of it judging by your car.  We've got some of 
your staff admitting on secret film that you employ illegal workers and you think it's a risk 
worth taking don't you Mr Stratton.   Mr Stratton...

(Mr Stratton's car speeds away)

KENYON
Well, there we go.  That was Mark Stratton.  He's been employing illegal workers for years 
now.  Sometimes they get deported, sometimes they come straight back again but he, so far, 
has gone completely unpunished.

All the goods in this basket originated from factories where we've secretly filmed.  We found 
them on the shelves of seven high street stores.  Now our investigations show that each one of 
those has sold food processed by illegal workers.  We told the supermarkets.  Sainsbury's says 
it demands suppliers meet all legal obligations and will investigate further.  Iceland says it's 
now carrying out its own investigation and will act swiftly if employment laws are being 
broken.  Harrods says it's never been aware of any suppliers using illegal labour, and legal 
responsibility doesn't lie with the store.  The Co-op says it stipulates to suppliers that the 
exploitation of labour is unacceptable and it's mounting its own inquiry.  Aldi says it would 
never support the use of illegal labour and carries out its own checks on suppliers.  Morrison 
said it doesn't condone the use of illegal labour and works to ensure suppliers meet their 
contractual obligations.

CHRISTINE WATTS
ASDA
We can play a part, we are playing a part, with an ethical trading policy that's robust and 
demanding, but we cannot do the job of the government, the police, the immigration service, 
all the other people who are involved.  We're pulling our weight, we're playing our part but 
it's complex and other people need to do the same.

LANG
In power terms the supermarkets are by far the greatest accretion of power.  So they have 
proportionately more responsibility.  They can knock heads together.  They must say look, fair 
cop guv', we've been found out, it can't add up, we can't go on driving the price of labour 
down.

KENYON
In fact, the supermarkets' trade body is trying to do something.  It's piloting a set of guidelines 
designed to weed out illegals at food factories, but they'll be voluntary and the proposed 
detailed checks will cost money to impose.

Isn't it going to cost the consumer money by the time the product ends up on the shelves?

DOUG HENDERSON
Of course.

KENYON
So at the end of the day, if we want to resolve this problem, we're looking at higher prices 
aren't we?

HENDERSON  Yes, potentially.

KENYON
How do you think the supermarkets feel about that?  They seem to be waging a price war at 
the moment to drop prices.

DOUG HENDERSON
FRESH PRODUCE CONSORTIUM
Well I think that as one introduces improvements into the supply chain, these improvements 
add incremental costs on the supply chain and they have to be passed on to the consumers.

LANG
We're going to have to pay more.  We're going to have to pay more to have decent labour, pay 
decently in free circumstances.  If we don't do that, how can we eat our food with pleasure?

KENYON
The gangmasters we've exposed tonight aren't alone.  They're among dozens attracted by the 
easy money, the simplicity of the crime and the lack of any effective policing.  They abuse and 
exploit a desperate labour force that can't protect itself.  They're responsible for the supply of 
thousands of illegal immigrant workers each year in the UK.

What would happen if you removed that illegal labour supply?

POLLARD
If you removed the entire illegal labour supply there would be, I think, a collapse in the supply 
chain in the whole food industry.
KENYON
It's that serious?

POLLARD
I think it's that serious because the estimate.. the early estimates of the number of illegal 
workers in this country is something like 20% of the total workforce.

KENYON
If our invisible workforce is so large, and so heavily relied upon, can we really leave it to 
those involved in the food chain to sort it out?

CHATWIN
Essentially, what you have is a conspiracy of silence amongst all the people involved in this 
because it's not in anybody's economic interest really at the moment to begin to tackle any 
part of the problem. 

KENYON
So, what's happened since we filmed?  Well Kestus, who was expelled from the UK, is back 
living under a different name.  Andris from FP Personnel, since we told FP about our 
evidence they've suspended him.  Ruta, the Lithuanian left homeless and penniless by her 
gangmaster, she's now working for another one.  Preston Andrews, the man behind FP 
Personnel, he says due to the controversy over workers from outside the EU, he's abandoning 
that side of his business.  And Mark Stratton, we've tried to contact him several times since 
filming but we're told he's "gone on holiday".